(Notice: The P85 is now the P95, I didn’t see a difference, I was told the sound chips are improved with a couple of voices replaced. The action was the same and the sounds were the same to me when I played one at the music store, but I didn’t check the organ and harpsichord because I never use them. To me it’s all about the piano sounds.)
I just had to post a review on my Yamaha P-85 digital piano. Why, because I researched way too much before I bought and compared it against the different Casio’s in a similar price range.
Here was the deal. The casio’s I looked at Privia, PX 110, PX 120, and PX 330. The hard decision was the sounds. The Yamaha p85 played a lot better. The action was quicker in that the keys were more like a real piano as opposed to the somewhat clunky Casio keys. But the Casio 330 for example had a lot cooler support sounds like the electric piano.
The 330 had a snarly wurlitzer or a clean electric piano, the ability to do a lot more with them. Had much cooler organ sounds. I don’t know what Yamaha was thinking with the organ sounds. In my opinion if people want the church organ sound, they’re not going to want a low priced Yamaha.
Anyway I don’t know what they were thinking other than they want people to buy their higher priced flagship models for all the bells and whistles.
I remember when I was doing a lot of keyboard repair, sometimes at the factory. I never had a call in which someone complained of the harpsichord not sounding right… :) They put 2 harpsichords on this unit… Oh well, then why did I buy it you ask? I’ll tell you why. The grand piano sounds are killer on this unit. I mean killer. They sound great through the onboard speakers, even know some people complain about the volume. But being a tech I can see what they were doing. Cutting cost obviously but the way they are installed both physically and electronically, you would have to run them full blast forever before you blow them, which is cool.
Another reason I bought it and continue to be happy with it. The action is so nice while I was playing it for the first time I was jamming, the music was just coming out, I wasn’t fighting the keys or being distracted. The Yamaha p85 is built very well and seems to have improvements from earlier model complaints that I’ve read before purchasing. Get a pedal though, the one that comes with it is a joke but will get your through till you get a nice one.
I’ve taken it to several gigs now and have used it in different places and still love it after 6 months. Remember it’s Yamaha quality that you’re getting also. Now with all that said, if my bank account and gig money picks up I would consider getting the casio px-330 also for the electric piano sounds or if they make a sound module with that sound, because it’s killer compared to the yamaha electric sounds, unless you like their sounds which a lot of people do.
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UPDATE: Aug, 2014
I pretty much stopped playing out with the p85 so I went ahead and sold it. I kept it in pretty nice condition (considering I was gigging out). I still had the shipping box so it looked good for the pic. I sold the piano with the music stand and pedals and got $275. Sold in one day with extra inquires before I took the ad out. So that tells me I could have gotten more. The buyer was interested in the weighted keys the most. He’s going to use it as a midi controller. I told him it was limited in that area but all he was doing is accessing piano sounds in a module.
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Here’s a good video on the Yamaha P 85. The gentleman can play and he puts the keyboard through all the sounds. Excellent demo if you’re thinking of buying one of these. I liked the action on the keys a lot, they are graded just like a real piano, meaning the treble keys are lighter to push down than the low bass keys.
Also remember this Yamaha P-85 is light, I can carry it with ease in a soft gig bag with the music holder, sustain pedal and power supply included and be out the door with ease. Of course for heavy gigging you’re going to want a hard case but for friends houses or weekend warriors it’s perfect.
Here’s another of P-95 where he is playing slow with feel so you can hear the notes ring out…
Great video and comments. I have a P-85 but talking to a Casio seller he told me that the P-85 was not meant to be used with a PA system just because the only output it had was the headphones output. What do you think? Since it has 2 headphone outputs, do you use both ( as L & R ) when connecting to a PA ? Thnaks. Ricardo.
Hi,
You can use it, just get a direct box for the PA. I’ve used mine 4 or 5 times this way.
The early p-85’s had a phase problem so you would have to use 2 mono jacks (one wired for the tip and one for the barrel) You can find wiring diagrams online.
I didn’t notice it on mine when I went live, also you can take a feed out of your amp. I just went with a mono guitar cord out of one jack.
It’s just where yamaha skimped, some people say if they put these details on the p85, there would be no reason to buy the more expensive model because the grand piano sounds on the p85 are very hard to beat in that price range.
Cheers!
Yup, I’m having to decide which to buy, the Yamaha mm8 or the Casio Privia K330. I’m interested in doing a little composing/recording. So, I’m going back and forth. But the 128 notes of polyphony and 16 track recorder on the Casio (as opposed to the 32 note polyphony and 8 track recording on the Yamaha) may be the deciding factors. they both play divinely, and I’ve been playing piano/keyboards for 30 years. Take care, all.
I’ve studied/played nothing but classical piano for more than 20 years and use keyboard for a few things in my Irish/Celtic band. Although Casio has come a LONG way, I’m still not a big Casio fan. I’ve played the px330 and yes, it has tons of features with better ep sounds than the P-95, but for my needs, all the extra sounds are useless. I have a P-95 and after playing mostly Steinway grands, the key weighting feels more like a real piano than the Casios I’ve played. I also prefer the grand piano sampling on the P-95, especially through good headphones and I’m using Sony MDR5706. To me, the Casio sounds a bit more digitized than the Yamaha. But for me, it’s mostly the feel of the keyboard since I also use a couple virtual pianos via my computer that sound like I’m actually playing a Steinway D 9′ concert grand. I’m considering replacing the onboard speakers for better sound when playing only through the onboards that sound a bit too mid-rangy to me due to the small size. I higher quality, more effective speaker may help.
I tried a special TRS 1/4″ to dual 1/4″ cable with the band’s sound system since the P-95 uses stereo sampling but it didn’t sound good. So I ended up doing the same as Gary, using a standard 1/4″ instrument cable direct from a headphone jack to a mono input and it sounds much better, though still not as good as using dedicated outputs, as with my Kurzweil.
Overall, the P-95 is a great deal… grand piano sounds are great, great keyboard feel, and easy to lug around at only 26 lbs. Great price if your main interest is grand piano sounds, keyboard feel, and weight.
Negatives: The matte finish of the black keys, which felt great when it was new, has begun to wear off into a more typical shiny plastic look and feel. But that’s to be expected with plastic. Not a huge deal. And the P-95 is pretty much all plastic, so not exactly indestructible. But it’s light!
Thanks for all the reviews. I have had the P-95 for almost a year now. It has some wear in the keybed on several of the keys. I am in no hurry to fix it (if it was the any of the Casio’s I would be a a big hurry !) Also, spent allot of time testing the action on the Casios verses the P95. (Even with the tri level recorded layers on the casio it was not enough to overcome the over weighted feel vs the P95. Of course, no DP is going to feel like my acoustic U3……at least not near that price point.
Finally,
I did some research on getting the warranty work on the Yamaha and a manager at Yami customer service actually returned my calls & gave me the resources for the repair. Why am i not in a big hurry ? 3 year warranty repair (parts & labor) on the P95. Casio has a 1 year warranty repair (P&L).
The key action on the casio is one of the reasons I don’t get one. I do like their electric piano sounds better than the yamaha.
I wish the yamaha had a split keyboard sound with bass on the low end.
Wot?
The Casio PX110 keys are probably the softest keys on the market!
Are you sure you got your facts straightened out?
Hi,
I was talking abut the 330, I wasn’t playing on a 110. Anyway, i’ve played on them since and the 330 is more like the stand up pianos I played and like the action. I still have my Yamaha and play it all the time, but the keys are a little harder to push down on. Some people love the action though so I guess it’s a matter of taste. Of course the Yamaha is still going in and out of places and holds up very well, built solid.
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